Revelatory Comments

If you’re a man who reads and comments on blogs, and if more than a third of those comments are on women’s blogs: You’re pathetic, and neither men nor women should consider your comments as valuable in any way.

The reverse is not true.

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30 thoughts on “Revelatory Comments

  1. I agree, but some red pill (or at least red pill-friendly) women talk more Biblical sense than their male counterparts. Look at SSM’s latest post and comments. Some of the men think their N=1 marriage/divorce experiments are universal proof that all modern marriages are doomed to fail and exit strategies are more important than daily sanctification.

  2. @ John
    Yes. The point of yesterday’s post was simply to point out to Christian husbands and wives what the Scriptures say they ought to be doing. I was oh-so-clear that the Scriptures say that women must submit to their husbands and that God will use her submission to bring about reconciliation. It’s been interesting to watch some of the Christian men explain why they can’t obey the Bible and cleanse their wives by washing them in the water of the Word – because women are too scary, that’s why!

    All I was really saying is “Put on the full armor of God, pick up the sword of the Spirit and fight!” But the response has essentially been to squeal, “No, we can’t, we’re too afraid! God would never expect men to obey Him if it’s too scary! Instead we will pack our go-bags, skulk around in the shadows, and run away at the first sign of battle.” And I keep saying, “OK! Pack your go-bag if that is what you’ve determined you need to do. But don’t neglect to obey God’s direct commands at the same time.”

    I won’t say anything further to them about it, though. A man can follow Rollo or he can follow Christ but he cannot follow both because they are not going in the same direction. It’s apparent whom many of my readers prefer to follow. So be it. I believe Ballista74 refers to this phenomenon as “vagina addiction.”

  3. Reverse is not true?

    Meaning what, if you are a woman commenting on mens blogs….etc?

    Or, if you are a man commenting less than 30%

    Or some gender/math reversal combo?

    Just playin’….little bit

  4. @SSM

    All I was really saying is “Put on the full armor of God, pick up the sword of the Spirit and fight!” But the response has essentially been to squeal, “No, we can’t, we’re too afraid! God would never expect men to obey Him if it’s too scary! Instead we will pack our go-bags, skulk around in the shadows, and run away at the first sign of battle.”

    I haven’t seen the discussion, but you know what Cane Caldo says about the kind of men who read and comment on women’s blogs. I’m just sayin…

  5. @ Dalrock
    LOL, well since both you and Cane have commented on my site in the past, ahem… I’m just saying… 🙂

    No, but really my comment crowd overlaps heavily with yours. They shouldn’t be offended by a woman saying, “Hey, we all need to follow the Bible in our marriages, okay?” But this morning, most people have settled down a bit and agree that we need to do this even if we don’t really want to and are even kind of scared to.

  6. @John

    Yes, some women write blogs that have more sense in their posts than some male blogs do. That doesn’t really matter; especially to the sort of men who are drawn to female blogs. They’re not there for the good sense, but the company. That can be innocuous, or not. Those who think this was a screed against women, or women’s blogs, or even particular women’s blogs, are not understanding. I’m not the sort to pussy-foot around if I decide to pick a bone with someone.

    @SSM

    See Dalrock’s comment.

    I don’t see how this comment does anything to alleviate my supposed misconceptions of them:

    They shouldn’t be offended by a woman saying, “Hey, we all need to follow the Bible in our marriages, okay?” But this morning, most people have settled down a bit and agree that we need to do this even if we don’t really want to and are even kind of scared to.

    By God, I would be offended! That ought to be a stripe on a man’s back to have to be told by a woman that they have to follow God. And that’s if you’re doing it right. There are times when God allows women rule over men, but that is a source of shame to those men. Men who don’t lead forthrightly should at least have the sense to be ruled in modesty, and modesty means quiet.

    By the way: Go bags and contingency plans are defeatism, in my book. Let tomorrow worry about itself, and do not bury your talents in the ground for safekeeping. Better to risk and die.

    @rbradleyandrews

    See Zippy’s comment, and my response to him further down this comment.

    @Empath.

    Do I strike you as the sort of man who appreciates subtle jabs? I have a very full sense of humor, but there is a fault in me that I cannot differentiate a poke from a punch; either I feel it, or I don’t. I do work on it, but in the meantime it’s best if you just punch me. We’re likely to scrap regardless, but there are less hard feelings after the conciliatory beer.

    @Zippy

    I’m in full agreement, and I encourage men to comment as they see fit. My post is an indicative, not an imperative.

  7. Do I strike you as the sort of man who appreciates subtle jabs?

    Time for that massage Cane.

    [CC: No doubt. I’m not allowed back at the spa though, because I keep retaliating on the staff.]

  8. Well, my comment count is now 2 for this post and 0 for the current one at SSM’s.

    Joking aside, SSM is the only female blog I read with any regularity, and I certainly don’t read all the comments when the count goes to 200+. It’s often SSM vs. wannabe alpha Christian guys who protesteth way too much, and a few non-Christian PUA tough guy types.

  9. Now I have to trudge over to SSM to see what the hullabaloo is about and at least leave one comment here to keep my count all happy. And no, that wasn’t subtle, that was just fun.

    I also believe empath is comp sci like me so he is having fun with logical negatives which aren’t as clear as they sound to the untrained ear.

  10. CC, I upped my count on SD’s site because I just had several replies to a post by here husband, though my question was more in jest than anything else. I had just made a reply or two there before I posted here.

    The only female sites I have been reading are red-pill(ish) ones linked from AlphaGame or Dalrock’s site, at least in this area. It is more looking for more insight into the issue (and hopefully finding things I can get my wife to read and understand) rather than because they were female. The HUS site is about the only one that is not quite redpill, though I have very limited comments there.

    I have never done a count though, nor do I plan to do so in the near future.

    The blogs someone comments on regularly would most likely reflect on them, at least after a bit of time.

  11. rbradleyandrews: What are you trying to get your wife to understand?
    I write with women in mind, hence my curiosity.

  12. The whole red pill idea. We both have come to realize that she was more influenced by feminist doctrine than she realized. I have always been pretty headstrong and plowed through things, so we lived by a lot of these ideas, but I have only really read them a lot when AlphaGame started and when I branched out a bit in the past several months.

    She is not a big reader and that is one of the biggest challenges. Though I am hoping to set here up with some Google Reader software on her Kindle Fire so she can start tracking these instead of reading ones I saved on my iPad.

  13. So you are looking for an easy-to-read summary of the red-pill that is gentle towards feminine sensibilities?

  14. > So you are looking for an easy-to-read summary of the red-pill that is gentle towards feminine sensibilities?

    Nah, I am just looking to get her to read enough that she can get the picture. I am probably trying to reach her too much like the way I would be reached though. I am a bit of a bull in a china shop at times.

    Part of the problem is also likely my implementation of things now. I think it is better and I can see changes even with some of my attitude, but I have always been quite opinionated and forceful, so that colors things as well.

    Your greatest strength is also my potentially greatest weakness at times….

  15. @BradA
    I don’t want to keep hijacking CC’s combox, but sometime in the not-too-far-future I’ll be posting something about red-pill for women as it has been something I’ve been meaning to do anyway.

  16. Interestingly, Athol Kay (atheist man) has run into the same thing as SSM (Christian woman). His latest post is about men who didn’t tell him all about all of their baggage–adultery, doing threesomes/swinging, inability to make a living, years of ED problems, etc. (His prior post was about porn addiction, and I’d wager there’s a link between that and the ED problems of his clients.)

    From a cursory glance, all the comments are from men and all are angry and negative. “How can you blame us?…you’re just like everyone else…it’s all the ladies’ fault (sob, sob, sniff, sniff).”

    Now I’m not going all Mark Driscoll and blaming 99% of modern marriage problems on men. Neither is SSM nor Athol. There are plenty of problems from both sexes. However, I think the whiny, “I’m a victim” segment of the manosphere is really starting to expose itself.

  17. @John

    Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Though it’s unnecessary: it’s always exciting and relieving to have someone respected in the Manosphere finally echo the message I’ve been repeating and expounding since August of 2012.

    “I want to be clear: The real world is a very dead place. There is death, divorce, and fatherless children all around. Concern for them is what the real Red Pill–the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ crucified–reveals to us. Answering what to do about that is another post.

    Finally, I want to ask the readers a question. Let’s assume that I have Game wrong, and that it can be separated from the PUA culture, and its tricks. Let’s assume it’s simply about breaking through the Feminist frame, understanding hypergamy, and adopting a masculine frame. Considering that the Christian man is called to marriage alone for sexual release, and that the world is full of sluts (there aren’t nearly enough virgins to go around), how is Game anything but a round-about method of telling Christian men to Man-Up and Marry These Sluts?”

    The Red Pill is worse than useless. There is a reason that I keep only two headers on my blog: The “About”, with a picture that signifies warring against and disciplining lust using the whip of marriage (lust literally cannot exist between a husband and wife) and the “What is the Red Pill”–the fruit of knowledge of good and evil.

  18. > how is Game anything but a round-about method of telling Christian men to Man-Up and Marry These Sluts?

    Have you elaborate more on this since? I am not sure I would agree. What the red pill is can vary greatly, but isn’t it basically about having the right understanding of how things work?

  19. John, I would agree that a lot of even the Christian sites seem so focused on the women’s sin that they can’t acknowledge that men really do have a role to play as well.

  20. I give up on sites when the despair and anger gets too high and then come back to them.

    Don’t count my comments, and Don’t care where I’m classified: I’m not a Yank, not in that heirarchy. And for that I praise God, for I do not need to think if I am pathetic, or not.

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