Donal Graeme commented:
While I cannot prove it, I can quite imagine that if John were writing that text today, it might be the harlot of Rome he would be warning us against. And by Rome, he would mean America.
Oscar commented that the sexual immorality attributed to the Whore of Babylon is actually a reference to idolatry. Several others echoed both with similar comments. I agree. America is tracking with Rome, and it is accelerating. These are, I believe, very bad things for us to have done or allowed. Some examples of that shortly, but now I want to get back to my disagreement with the Vox and the Alt-Right emphasis on ethno-nationalism, and also my disagreement with the NRx diagnoses and prescriptions.
The supposed antidote ethno-nationalism is proposed to combat empire; which they deem an intrinsic evil. Vox calls it (empire) Babel, or Neo-Babelism. But I think it is demonstrably false (according to the scriptures) to think empire intrinsically evil…at least in a way that nations aren’t evil. Are there ethnic nations so good that we should subject our faith to ethno-nationalism? If a nation is good, then does that mean all its clans are good? All its families? Is each individual given atonement by his ethno-national blood?
Nebuchadnezzar, an emperor, is praised and blessed by God. His reign and empire is described by God in a vision to Daniel as a “golden head”. Better: What does “King of kings and Lord or lords” mean, if not empire?
However, we are not there yet and here is a trouble which can come with every human endeavor (including empire) and that is idolatry. Since empire is a thing on a grand scale, the soiling by idolatry can be immense. But idolatry is a problem of the spirit–not the flesh–because the spirit is greater than the flesh. The flesh will be conformed to the spirit. This is what the law of sin and death teaches. When Adam rebelled, his spirit–our spirit–died in the Garden. Our bodies took on the shape of sin and so grow into death. The Necropolis came. It also points us to Christ, in whom those who die in the flesh will be reborn–even in the flesh–according to the Spirit of Christ, who was the firstborn of the dead.
And we had better believe that the spirit really is stronger than the flesh. If you attack a spiritual problem with the worldly weapon of ethno-nationalism you will lose; you will lose not only to good spirits but evil spirits as well. We cannot defeat the dead by making a priority of separation according to various forms of unlife.
Things that We have Heard and Known 
You have a gift for understatement, Cane.
Indeed.
However, we also know the end of the story:
My point is this: They have been mingling together with seed of man, and yet we now see that they do not cleave together. This is gospel news, and ought make us glad–even as we pine for the kingdom that shall never be destroyed, but which shall break in pieces and consume all kingdoms, and stand forever.
@MNM
Christians are what is taken from the broken kingdoms, consumed, and put into the kingdom that shall stand forever. So, to be clear: The fact that Christ will break the empire(s), and then break the nations, is not a reason to cling to nations anymore than it is to cling to empire(s).
@ Cane
Agreed.
My point is simply that rising ethno-nationalism in the world is a condition that ought to make Christians glad. Not because of what it is or any merits that it has, but because of what it means and portends.
Gotcha.
The disease is multiculturalism (polygamy, cannibalism are just alternatives), or cultural Marxism. It is at root spiritual, the ethno-nationalism treats the symptoms (with bad side-effects) not the disease.
I was going to comment again on the previous post, but I knew better and waited. Holy crap, bro, you’re on a roll!